I am not loving his comb but like his wing carraige, front line and tail angle. Too many bantams are high tailed and some even squirrel tailed.
You are right Matt; Disregard the comb and you will be hard pressed to find a better White Leghorn Bantam male. As an aside a few years back Terry Britt and I were judging in Arizona. We are trying to decide on the Champion Large fowl. There was a White Rock male that was as good as one ever sees but it had the grossest comb ( Danny's is great by comparison). If it had been any worse it would have been a DQ. We went over and over the class winners and eventually decided that despite the ultimate ugly comb it was the best Large Fowl in the show. Brian Decker
Well after the post about his comb,I went and took another look at this birds comb. I look at the picture again and I actually beleive that it is the way that he is holding his head and the fact that the sunshining on him you dont see the back of his head,which makes it look longer than it really is. Brian you are correct in the fact that the females will have lop combs,as every female that I raise has a lopped comb.Matt you are correct in most of todays leghorns being showed are to high tailed.Most don't have a frontend on them and in my opinion are to big,some have way to much tail. Everyone thinks that a leghorn should have this great big long tail,when really it is about balance. The tail has to fit the bird.I see females that have tails that look like brooms which takes away from the bottom line of the bird.Tails that are spread way to wide,is not leghorn type.I respect yours and Brian's opinion and just trying to get some discussion on this leghorn site.Where I fault his comb is that it is a little to tail,but after the coon attacks this last fall, this is what I have to work with .Thanks for your opinions,Could you 3 judges give me your thoughts and opinion on leghorn females with double lopped combs? As I've seen several placed BB and SCCL . After your repleys I will tell you what my mentor told me. Thanks again feathers
I can testify what Danny said about this nice little bird. I was there a few weeks ago "borrowing" one of his females and got to hold this bird, i thought my males were on the small side but not compared to this cockerel,his type of feather is like a leghorn should be. I hope to be able to be at the same show to see how they stack up. Danny, although im no judge, you know my opinion about the double loppes. In my opinion no matter who judges or how they place (good or bad) a comment from a seasoned leghorn breeder goes a long way with me. Steven
Breeder and Exhibitor of Single Comb/Rose Comb White Leghorn Bantams and Black Langshan Bantams
Thanks Steven,hope the female does you some good.As fore the double lopped combs we both learned from the same mentor and knew what his thoughts on was. Just trying to get some of our judges on here to chime in on what there opinions are of a double lopped leghorn female.
Matt, you are correct in the fact that there is no point cut for a double lop comb on a leghorn female. My mentor was Otto Nehuis, and he would never keep little lone breed out of a female that had a double lop comb. A double lop comb belongs on a minorca female. There is one line out there that is winning and all the females have this problem and I do feel that it is a problem. Matt do you think that it would fall under the wrong comb,even though it is still a single comb? All I know is that Otto said that they were never to be used,when breeding leghorns. feathers
Matt, you are correct in the fact that there is no point cut for a double lop comb on a leghorn female. My mentor was Otto Nehuis, and he would never keep little lone breed out of a female that had a double lop comb. A double lop comb belongs on a minorca female. There is one line out there that is winning and all the females have this problem and I do feel that it is a problem. Matt do you think that it would fall under the wrong comb,even though it is still a single comb? All I know is that Otto said that they were never to be used,when breeding leghorns. feathers[/quote =============================================== Thanks Feathers; One should never be too old to learn and the APA Standard positively calls for and describes a single lopped comb on a Leghorn and a double lopped comb on a Minorca. There is a 5 point cut for comb shape which I usually have to use for a Leghorn Bantam female comb that isn't lopped but from now on will also be applied if I ever find a Leghorn with a double lop or a Minorca with a single lop. Brian Decker APA/ABA judge
I do not think I could get a 5 point cut out of a double lopped comb but will pay more attention from now on:)
=========================== Hi Matt; Both Standards require double lop for Minorca and single lop for Leghorn. One might not use all of the 5 shape point cuts but I would think whatever you would cut for a non-loped comb in a Leghorn female might be appropriate Brian Decker
I thank both of you as I respect both of you all as judges and as poultry breeders. I know that it is a small thing but if it isnt suppose to be there it should be a cut in the points on the bird. I have had talks with other judges that I feel they were unaware of this also. Otto Neihus told me that once you get in to your birds you would have to kill it out , and that it would effect your males as well. Thanks again . feathers